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Controversial Topic
Posted October, 2004

The NRHA Futurity, held each year in Oklahoma City, is the premier event in the reining industry, with $175,00 paid to the Open Champion. Currently the cost to enter the futurity is $2,000, for the Open or Non Pro, if all monthly payments are made on time. This includes entry to all other divisions a rider is eligible, such as the Intermediate and Limited Divisions. Entry into the Gelding Incentive is an additional $100.

-What you think about the cost of entering the futurity?

-Do you think the cost is reasonable in comparison to how well you have to place in order to win your entry back?


-Do you think owners should be able to sell their entry if for some reason they no longer want to or are able to participate?

what do you think?
write in and we will post your opinion below

ABSOULTELY Reasonable!  Even for smaller breeders like us (even better if you are able to do so under a Sire & Dam Breeding!)  As futurities go, the NRHA is one of the most reasonable out there. 

Yes I also think that if you have nominated and are paid up in payments that it should be able to be sold/transferred to another horse.  After all anything can happen with injuries, abilities, etc.  

As far as being able (or unable) to win your entry fee back... if we all went into a show hoping to just win our entry fees back, what kind of showmen and women would we be?  All we can do is show our horse to the best of their ability and hope we don't screw up by going off pattern!
 
Amy Keach, Schenectady, NY

I think that the entry fees are quite reasonable.  As a fairly new breeder who has had entries for the past 3 years, and have also entered other prestigious events like Congress and the Tradition Futurity, I believe that the NRHA Futurity gives back the highest percentage in comparison to the other shows, especially when you compare the cost of entering their futurities. 

Now that NRHA has determined to charge a flat fee and to allow the riders to compete according to their eligibility without additional charge, it truly is a good deal. 

As far as allowing an owner to sell an entry, I thing that owners should be allowed to do this since 3-year olds very often get injured, get sold, or do not live up to the expectations placed on them as talented 2-year olds.  Also, a lot of people get into the Futurity game late in the year, and they should be able to purchase entries from owners who are not sending their previously entered horses.
-- Joy Frannicola, Smithfield, NC

On the entry fee - It's 2.5% of the added money if you only consider the Open division.  Cross-entries drop the ratio considerably, but I think it's best that we keep the example as simple as possible.

Compare this 2.5% entry fee to the Futurity Championship Show fees and at the open level the $350 entry is 7% of the added money (again, we're only looking at the Open here, Limited Open has an entry fee of 10% of the added money.) Without getting too complicated, you have to make it to the finals to win your entry back.

As far as being able to sell your entry, I think that's the best way that you can help justify the fee.
--Kit Cosper, Maryland

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Speaking only of the Non Pro Futurity, I think the entry fee is a little high. When you consider that the Open winner can win $175,000. and the NP winner only $35,000.

I realize that the NP entries are considerably less than the Open. What needs to be done is to increase the entries in the NP. There has been a steady decline in the NP entries since the Futurity added 3 more days. We'll leave that for another discussion (perhaps a good question for your next controversial topic)

 
As far as expecting to win back your entry fee, absolutely I expect to win back my entry fee! If I didn't I wouldn't be there. I don't always get it back but I sure go there to try, as I'm sure most people do. If they dont they should take up knitting or something.
 

I think a person should be able to buy or sell an entry entry with a nominal late fee. I realize that there needs to be a late fee or everyone would wait to buy an entry in Nov., but double the futurity fee is excessive.

I also think that if you didn't have to nominate until July or August. The entries would increase, especially in the Non Pro.

 
-- Keith Crawford, Michigan
 

 

he entry fee - It's 2.5% of the added money if you only consider the Open division.  Cross-entries drop the ratio considerably, but I think it's best that we keep the example as simple as possible.

Compare this 2.5% entry fee to the Futurity Championship Show fees and at the open level the $350 entry is 7% of the added money (again, we're only looking at the Open here, Limited Open has an entry fee of 10% of the added money.) Without getting too complicated, you have to make it to the finals to win your entry back.

As far as being On the entry fee - It's 2.5% of the added money if you only consider the Open division.  Cross-entries drop the ratio considerably, but I think it's best that we keep the example as simple as possible.

Compare this 2.5% entry fee to the Futurity Championship Show fees and at the open level the $350 entry is 7% of the added money (again, we're only looking at the Open here, Limited Open has an entry fee of 10% of the added money.) Without getting too complicated, you have to make it to the finals to win your entry back.

As far as being able to sell your entry, I think that's the best way that you can help justify the fee.
--Kit Cosper, Maryland

able to sell your entry, I think that's the best way that you can help justify the fee.

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